Dr. John Oertle, Solidarity HealthShare’s Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer, joins Bob Sansevere on The BS Show to discuss tips for better health to reduce the risk of heart diseases and other medical conditions.
Bob Sansevere (00:00):
We are joined by Dr. John Oertle, the Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer for Solidarity HealthShare at solidarityhealthshare.org. Now, doctor, I got to ask you, there is a report out that simple everyday activity could slash heart disease risk by 20%. That’s according to the study now sitting in my recliner and watching Tulsa King. Is that part of it? Will that work for me or is that going to be a problem? What do you think?
Dr. John Oertle (00:32):
Unfortunately, being a catch potato is not part of the actual study.
Bob Sansevere (00:36):
I was hoping that because I thought maybe that or what about getting up to go to the refrigerator? I mean, that’s walking.
Dr. John Oertle (00:43):
Yeah, that’s enough, right? Yeah. This study, it’s great because it was just recently published. This was from Tulane University in Louisiana to publish this study. But it was looking at being able to just walk up the stairs and really not a lot of stairs. So even if you’re just walking up five stairs, it actually found that it can actually reduce heart disease
(01:10):
By 20%, which is a huge deal. So this is one of those things too, is that if you’re going to work, yeah, take the stairs because this is where just taking those five flights of stairs per day can decrease the risk of atherosclerosis. So atherosclerosis, just for everybody to know, is when you have the cholesterol that starts to build up plaquing on the coronary arteries. And so that’s what leads to heart attacks and that leads to other perfusion issues and ischemic strokes. So being able to just reduce that can go a long way. And who knew? Just taking the stairs. So don’t use your elevators, take your stairs. It’s a part of your daily, most people’s daily routines anyways. And so I strongly recommend if you need to be able to, don’t avoid going up your stairs, even if you’re a two story house, try to really, again, use the stairs at least five times a day.
Bob Sansevere (02:03):
Well, I’m talking from experience and everyone else, it’s done. It’s a lot easier going down the stairs and up the stairs. Any benefit from going down or just going up?
Dr. John Oertle (02:12):
I think it doesn’t clarify, but again, my thought is, is it’s likely going up. The other thing that helps too, making sure slips and falls, especially with the elderly population, is something that you also want to be cautious of. I always like to say, make sure that you’re wearing good shoes or even getting socks that are having the little stickies on the bottom of ’em. That’s a good public health thing too, so that you’re not going to slip and fall when you’re going down the stairs.
Bob Sansevere (02:38):
Interestingly, I just saw something online, a different type of study that just said after you have an evening meal, go walk for 15 minutes. So any type of activity, you don’t have to go running to get the benefits.
Dr. John Oertle (02:51):
Well, let’s talk about this because after the evening meal, just being able to go walking, so after the evening meal, you now have a lot of, again, carbohydrates and sugars that are going in the system. And so one of the best things is you’re absolutely right. If you go walking just an evening walk, it’s fall. We’re coming upon beautiful weather, go on a walk because that’s going to help the body start to have to utilize the sugars that are being metabolized in the body. And so what you’re doing is that you’re actually putting ’em to use instead of actually going into storage and creating more inflammation and creating more storage. So just exercising before can help keep the weight off, but it can also help making sure that you’re getting good metabolic flexibility.
Bob Sansevere (03:35):
Well, and this study was more related to your blood sugar and what you’re saying is that obviously that’s absolutely on the same page with it where it’ll help.
Dr. John Oertle (03:44):
That’s exactly right.
Bob Sansevere (03:45):
Your blood sugar is going to get better if you do stuff like that, like, just walk.
Dr. John Oertle (03:49):
And good glucose regulation, getting it being utilized, it’ll protect your body from those, even the cardiovascular diseases, because diabetes are out of control, glucose swings can actually lead to also cardiovascular disease. So being able to do that is phenomenal. So absolutely, walking after dinner is a wonderful exercise.
Bob Sansevere (04:09):
And again, when I was younger, I mean I ran track, but now let’s not push the whole run thing because it’s tough on your joints as you get older and you don’t need to stay healthy. That’s an important thing to remember. And when you’re taking the stairs, you don’t have to go bounding up the stairs, just walk up the stairs. It doesn’t have to be a brisk pace.
Dr. John Oertle (04:30):
Well, I think that’s right. I mean, after 40, I’m always saying again, many times people are wanting to be able to go out and be those weekend warriors.
(04:37):
And then what is that doing after being, you go out and you’re doing all this exercise, but what that’s doing for the body is that it’s hard on the joints. You’re absolutely right, but it’s also, it increases inflammation. It increases cortisol levels, it stresses the body out. Now you have a lot of water weight and you actually are discouraged because you’re actually gaining the weight instead of actually losing it When you’re going and working out really difficultly and there’s a lot, it’s difficult to get good healthy regeneration because hormones are usually having a less amount of hormones, so it’s harder to recover. And so that huge exercise that you can do when you’re 20 years old and recover the very next day and go back to more at 50 years old, it takes a whole week to be able to recover sometimes from that exercise. And so it’s just not healthy for the body. But when you’re doing just basic walking or stairs, staying active and moving, it can be a game changer. So we can be more consistently doing this and not destroying our body at the same time.
Bob Sansevere (05:38):
Now, we’ve touched on things that are going to make you more heart healthy by doing these, but there’s another study, and this one is frightening to me. Study finds evidence of microplastics in brains and other organs. What the heck is this about?
Dr. John Oertle (05:53):
Yeah, so this is something that we’ve been tracking for little bit of time now, at least I have been. But we’re seeing microplastics showing up in our environments. And so this is where, just because we think that we’re using plastics more frequently in our foods and in our environment, but we do see that there’s, one of the things that we’re seeing is that they’re ending up these plastics aren’t just staying in our containers, that these plastics are getting into our bodies and they’re showing that it’s getting into the tissue, especially the actual brain. And so they’re micro, but when you’re actually looking at this, it’s very concerning that these plastics are getting into our body. So things that I always say that is really important is be conscientious of the plastics that you’re using in your
Bob Sansevere (06:41):
House
Dr. John Oertle (06:42):
To store foods to drink from. Please don’t be microwaving anything that’s in a plastic container. And you can also have, there’s various, again, healthier plastics than others. And so being able to just understand what are safe plastics to be able to use, or in general, if you can use glass, use glass glasses instead of plastic glasses, being able to make sure that you’re, or storage containers as well. It’s all just better because again, this is a, we don’t know all the health consequences that are going to be going on as a result of having microplastics in our body. But again, as a doctor, I am concerned about this as far as what are the potential health consequences that will occur as a result of these plastics that are being evaluated in our bodies.
Bob Sansevere (07:26):
Well, and we’ve been hearing for years like water bottles, there is plastic leeches into them so that obviously there’s something to that. And the microwave thing is vitally important. And the best example is, I mean if you get something in styrofoam, if you take it home, don’t put the styrofoam into your microwave that you got it in. You got to put it on a plate or can it leak In from the mic?
Dr. John Oertle (07:50):
Yeah, try to be more natural with it. The way God made it is good, the way man messes with it his madness. So make sure that you’re using it the way that God had intended for it. And that’s it. We got to be thinking about these things. It definitely has health consequences if we we’re overwhelming our
Bob Sansevere (08:06):
Bodies. Alright, now the other item, now the first one is good. You’re telling us how to slash heart disease, but this one forever. Chemicals found in us drinking water and a map shows hotspots of the highest levels. Is Minnesota one of those highest levels? Buffalo, Minnesota perhaps, or no?
Dr. John Oertle (08:22):
There actually is in Minnesota. There are some hotspots in Minnesota. There sure are. And so this is where, when it comes to these forever chemicals, these are, again, this study was published not too long ago, but looking at some hotspots, Minnesota actually does have some hotspots. Unfortunately with all the lakes that it has, there still is some forever chemicals that are present there. These are chemicals that stay in our body and when they get in the body, they stay in. But this is in our drinking water. And so I always recommend, especially with our drinking water, make sure we’re filtering out. Again, many times we’re doing reverse osmosis systems to be able to make sure that we’re having good filtration in our actual water so that we’re removing these forever chemicals. So be conscientious of not just getting it from the tap and making sure that we’re able to have a good filtration method to be able to filter out our
Bob Sansevere (09:10):
Waters where we live. We live in the country and iron and water is a real issue. I mean, you have to work to make sure the iron is there. But I do think, see, I’m a believer that the iron, because we have horses and animals that live long beyond what their average life expectancy would be, and I wonder if the iron helps that, is iron one of the chemicals?
Dr. John Oertle (09:32):
It’s possible. No, iron isn’t a chemical, iron is a nutrient. But the issue with overwhelming iron loads is that if we’ve ever iron oxidizes, so this is similar to where you have when you rust and that rust is when oxygen is hitting the iron in. Its rusting.
Bob Sansevere (09:48):
Oh, ok.
Dr. John Oertle (09:49):
So individuals that actually have too much iron in the system, which is possible. And many times people are iron deficient because of menstruation. Females are oftentimes iron deficient because of menstruation or because of blood loss. But when we have good iron levels, if you’re too high, which is actually a medical condition called or hemoch cytosis where you increase iron storage, you don’t actually clear it out effectively. It can lead to diabetes, liver disease and other issues and early death because too much iron. So too much iron is not a good thing because it oxidizes and it rusts. Think about it, it rusts our bodies, but we don’t want that. But good healthy amounts of iron is critical. There’s other, probably some other really good healthy minerals. You do want healthy minerals in your food. So one of the issues, even though you want good filtration like reverse osmosis, you also want to make sure that you’re getting good healthy mineralization into your foods because you want to remove the bad, but you don’t want to remove the good either. So you want to replace it with the good
Bob Sansevere (10:51):
Doctor. This is all great stuff. Thank you for that. And also Dr. Ley, as we mentioned, he’s the Chief medical Officer co-founder of Solidarity HealthShare. Check out solidarity HealthShare at solidarityhealthshare.org. Great alternative to traditional healthcare and you are very likely to save some good money. Doctor. Thank you. We’ll take a quick break. The BS show will be right back.
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