Discussing the Efforts to Resist Abortion on Demand

Solidarity President and Co-Founder, Chris Faddis, spoke with conservative radio show host Chris DeSimone on his show WakeUp! Tucson to discuss the efforts to allow abortion on demand, and how we can resist them. They talked about a petition being pushed in Arizona and the disastrous effects it would have. Listen to the interview below, or read the transcript below that.

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Chris DeSimone:

Let’s go to our friend, Chris Faddis, solidarityhealthshare.org. Christopher, good morning, sir.

Chris Faddis:

Hey, how are you? Good to talk to you.

Chris DeSimone:

Good. How’s things in the world? Good year. Happy New Year. How’s everything in your world?

Chris Faddis:

Things are great. It’s been a good start to the year. Nice and rainy up here. I was in the snow in Washington DC last week for the March for Life, so life is good and busy.

Chris DeSimone:

So how has the March of Life changed since the Dobbs case? Did it look different? What was the scene in DC?

Chris Faddis:

Yeah, no, I mean, it’s interesting. I think there’s probably less people in general, but not that many less. It still seems to me like one of the largest events that happens there every year. I mean, it’s people going all the way back the year that Trump came, the crowd went all the way back to the Washington Monument. It’s a little short of the Monument now, but I think that it’s still quite a robust crowd from all over the country. The topics are different. We’re talking a lot more about the states, of course, because of all the issues coming down the pike at the state level. But it’s still a great event, great families, great people there, and kind of encouraging to know that there’s that many people who are on the side of life.

Chris DeSimone:

Well, and in Arizona you have this deceptive petition that they’re passing around. Well, the petition is not the message that they’re telling the petition people is very deceiving, but it’s literally abortion on demand in Arizona if they get this passed, and I know they’re using it as part of a whole strategy for 2024, but I’ve actually ruined a few petition people at the Target shopping center in Oro Valley.

Chris Faddis:

What’s funny is I’ve tried, but they avoid our family because once they see you with five kids, they just stay away from me. I walked right past them one time, didn’t realize they were there, and then later when my wife was walking behind us like a few feet, so they didn’t realize she was with us, they approached her, but they would never approach me. So we haven’t yet, my daughter’s doing one of those decline to sign events, and I think I would encourage people to do that. There’s this group that’s out there going to where the petitioners are to counter with people and let them know what the bill, the ballot initiative is actually about and what’s included. So it’s an important thing. I heard the other day that they’re already at 250,000 of their 383,000 signatures, so they’re on the war path here and likely going to hit their signature count.

Chris DeSimone:

Well, again, they keep saying the woman makes the decision with their doctor, but that’s not what it says in the petition. And it’s a healthcare professional. It could be the girl who checks you in when you get to the doctor. She could be a healthcare professional.

Chris Faddis:

You could be, your Reiki instructor can say that you have a mental health distress.

Chris DeSimone:

Yes, correct. And then at the same time, we have this gray area of viability, which from what I’ve read is literally someone can make the decision to kill the kid when they’re eight and a half months old.

Chris Faddis:

Right, right. Yeah. Essentially it adds layers, but it essentially adds, it truly doesn’t try an abortion in our law up to birth. And ultimately all of those little layers, mental health or viability, all those little arguments, it will get them to birth. And it’s very passe in how it does it. So it’s definitely concerning. The other thing, Chris, is the parental consent is a real issue. Anyone including your child’s teacher, their sexual abuser, a sex trafficker, anyone can take them for an abortion and they don’t need parental consent. And that’s a big concern that we need to be watching out for.

Chris DeSimone:

What a sign of a smarter, wiser advanced population.

Chris Faddis:

Exactly. Exactly. Let’s just kill all our people. Yeah, I mean, it’s scary. I have a teenage daughter, the thought that somebody could abuse her and take her in, and she certainly wouldn’t do it, but it’s those kinds of things that really, really concerning. And the reality is, Chris, they’re going to continue this argument that it’s for the life of a mother and what about medical necessity and bring up any of those cases why they think it’s medically necessary and they’re not necessary. And ectopic pregnancy does not need an abortion to solve the ectopic pregnancy. In fact, an abortion would kill the woman if you did an abortion to solve an ectopic pregnancy. And so these are the kinds of things that they’re lying about, they’re putting out there. And the reality is ask the medical professionals who are speaking medically, not ideologically. And the reality is that there’s no reason for abortion to be needed for medical need.

Chris DeSimone:

I do a podcast called Fate Family in Schools, and we were having a discussion yesterday about what’s going on in the abortion versus pro-life. And I got to a point in my discussion, Chris and audience that think about this, and a young woman through lack of education, lack of parenting, or being bombarded by all the wrong messaging out there has decided I believe God with a man and a woman, that’s the creation process. But you’ve convinced her that she should destroy genetically something that’s herself, and that to me, that’s a sick place to be in society, that we’ve gotten to a point where you’ve call it a fetus, but even if you don’t believe in God, 50% of that kid is you. And you’ve convinced this woman to destroy 50% of herself in a living being. And that’s a really bad place to be for society.

Chris Faddis:

It really is. And it’s a bad place to be for that woman. I mean, the mental health outcomes of abortion are drastic and she’ll never be the same because of what you just said. And the reality is she’s sharing DNA with that person. She’s got a bond that is, no one has that bond. I can’t even have the bond with my children that my wife has, that their mother has. And that’s such a terrible fate for both the child and the mother’s mental health.

Chris DeSimone:

Well, we’ve talked about nothing we were going to talk about. So we’re going to go to break and then we’re going to talk about health care spending.

Chris Faddis:

Sounds good.

Chris DeSimone:

All right, my friend. Hold on, everyone. Chris Faddis, our friend president and CEO of Solidarity HealthShare is on the line. And again, Solidarity HealthShare, best way to best and most moral way to pay for your healthcare. Check ’em out solidarityhealthshare.org. You’ll also improve something called your household. What’s the word I’m looking for? Cashflow, which is a nice thing. Chris Faddis, welcome back buddy.

Chris Faddis:

Great to be on.

Chris DeSimone:

Healthcare spending four and a half trillion dollars in 2022. That’s a hell of a number. And then that averages out to what, 13 to 14,000 a human being in America?

Chris Faddis:

Yeah, that sounds about right. And what’s not there? That includes what is averaged to be about third of waste. So if you like overspending, that’s where it’s at.

Chris DeSimone:

We just had a lady on the first hour at Dr. Marion Mass, and she’s like our kind of doctor, Chris, everything that we talk about with waste and dealing with big hospital, big pharma, all of that, and Medicare. She was on fire today. So this is a perfect bookend to what we were talking about this morning. We talk about with all the time, how much of the federal government is not just Social security, but Medicare and Obamacare. So that’s a huge part of this number also, right?

Chris Faddis:

Yeah. And if you think about this number, looking at some of these things as far as what is going up in Medicare, so Medicare itself or Medicaid spending, I’m sorry, went up 9.6% and Medicare spending went up 5.9%. And what’s crazy about that, Chris, is those are both areas of spending that are under a price control by the federal government. So the Center for Medicare Services publishes pricing for both Medicaid and Medicare four times a year, and they adjust the pricing. That’s a price control that you can’t charge outside of that. And yet it’s still gone up 5.9% for Medicare and 9.6% for Medicaid. So if you want an example of out of control spending this fixed system on the insurance market that the Affordable Care Act has created, as well as the fixed system of Medicare Medicaid, and we’re still increasing at a rapid rate and wasting 1.5 trillion a year in healthcare.

Chris DeSimone:

So as we move through, these numbers just hurt my brain, my friend. They just hurt my brain. I don’t know if you know this might be a good research project for all of us. When the ACA came about, they kept on quoting how many Americans are uninsured, whatever that number was, 18, 20, whatever the number was, right? I was saying to the doctor in the first hour, I noticed the federal government doesn’t share that number anymore, which tells me we haven’t done anything to cover the uninsured.

Chris Faddis:

No. In fact, at one point it did go up, sorry, down the uninsured number did go down. At a certain point, not very much. It was minor. It did not have the pickup. Of course, I think they were promising something like 20 or 30% more Americans would be insured or something. And it was nowhere near that number. And I don’t remember the numbers, but what’s amazing is it’s actually gone down for the third State Street year in a row since 2021. It went down from 28.5 million to 26.6, and it’s continued, but there’s still so many Americans without insurance, without any sort of care. Now, that probably also includes those of us who opt out of insurance wisely to be a part of a health share, but that’s a minor number. So it’s pretty crazy that the Affordable Care Act, essentially all of the things that it was popular for, it essentially didn’t do. But what it really did do is it allowed us to consolidate all the hospitals and then let them fix the pricing to jack it up 20% year over 10 to 20% year over year.

Chris DeSimone:

So it should be called

Chris Faddis:

The congratulations. It’s

Chris DeSimone:

The Affordable Premium Act for those who enroll in it. Right? We can say that, right? But actually since the

Chris Faddis:

Subsidy is great for those people, right?

Chris DeSimone:

But the actual care pot has actually skyrocketed since ACA.

Chris Faddis:

Yeah, the care side, the deductibles have skyrocketed, right? So you’ve got people who are insured through an Affordable Care Act subsidy. Maybe they’re only paying a hundred dollars a month because they qualified for the subsidy, but they can’t afford any care. They can’t go to the doctor. They can’t afford 10 to $12,000 for their family out of pocket. So it really hasn’t solved any of those problems other than the insurance companies are making a heck of a lot of money and more money. And every time they raise the rate, all they’ve got to do is go back to the government. The government will increase the subsidy.

Chris DeSimone:

Let’s go to our other story we wanted to cover today. Tell us about this abortion ruling that’s going down in Texas. Because again, one of the things about solidarity health share is they’re not paying for things that are morally not so good. And so let’s get to what’s with this Texas Supreme Court ruling, Chris?

Chris Faddis:

Yeah, I mean, this was one of those cases where it’s very clear that Planned Parenthood was trying to set this up for a federal case to over outlaw their six week abortion ban. But this abortion is left Texas doctors confused on what would qualify as medical exemption. Really, the district court judge said that Cox qualified for a medical exemption, but then the sub Texas Supreme Court, they overruled it. And a big part of this, Chris, was that the doctor didn’t even provide any sort of evidence or a statement saying that it was medically necessary that her life was in danger. And the reason is her reasoning for this being medically necessary was essentially this woman would likely need a C-section when she delivered this baby with Trisomy 18. And a C-section could prove one of the risks of a C-section could be death, which is in a very rare circumstance.

And what’s interesting about that is every day all day, you have OBS scheduling people’s inductions and C-sections because it’s convenient for their schedule. And the medical establishment has no problem pushing women to C-sections. They make more money, whatever. And yet now all of a sudden it’s the danger of a woman. And that was the reason that the doctor was claiming that this baby should be aborted. The reality is the baby had Trisomy 18, it’s a very difficult prenatal diagnosis. The woman was scared, and honestly, many children with Trisomy 18 have lived. So that was the case. And the Texas Supreme Court basically said, first of all, you didn’t need to bring this to court. You have the rights under the law to do this. And second of all, you didn’t even claim that she needed this medically, you didn’t even do those things. So gave them the rubric again, saying, this is what you need to do in the future to be able to do this abortion. At this point, the woman had already gone to another state and had her abortion. So Texas’s law allows doctors to basically make a unilateral judgment on the necessity for an abortion. And they just tried to make a court case out of this.

Chris DeSimone:

So Chip Roy out of Texas, Chip Roy out of Texas is talking about it’s not good enough simply to rail against broken healthcare without the plan on how we’ll address it. So I’ve heard people say, well, the Republicans don’t have a plan to replace Obamacare. There’s plenty of plans that they have. They just haven’t gotten anything done with it. So I mean, think about it, even with a small vote majority in the house, it’s not like they’ve gotten anything on healthcare out of the house. Am I missing something?

Chris Faddis:

No, they really haven’t. And I think Roy was pushing a universal HSA approaches, which I think a lot of Americans, I think Congress is afraid of because of the excess, because considered a spend, right? Because it’s going to affect the tax bill. And so it’s one of those cases where he was pushing this bill. I think there was a lot of hope that they could get some things done. In fact, one of the hopes that some in the healthcare sharing community had was that it would allow HSAs for health sharing. And as of last week, it’s dead in the water as a bill. And I think now they’re going back to maybe some smaller carve out bills on HSAs. Let’s expand HSAs for health sharing. Let’s expand HSAs here. Let’s do some small things. But overall, the Republicans, I think he’s right in the sense that Republicans are scared to move forward on healthcare. They got kind of killed in the last repeal attempt. So I think there’s just a skittishness in the conference, I think, for people to not want to really stick their neck out right now. But the reality is that we need them to, especially on price transparency and some other things, that we need them to stick their neck out.

Chris DeSimone:

Well, it’s not like they’ve, well, anyway, it’s just not as sexy as some of the other things to talk about, even though it’s amazingly important to everyone’s wallet.

Chris Faddis:

Right, right.

Chris DeSimone:

Well, again, we love what you do with Solidarity Healthshare. Again, think outside of the box on think outside of the box in a moral way on how to pay for your healthcare. And you should go to solidarityhealthshare.org and just run through what the benefits are, what it’s going to cost your family out of pocket. And remember, always add what you’re paying per month plus whatever your equivalent of a deductible is, and that’s what your real healthcare costs are. And just do that math right now, especially if you’re on one of the blues or anything like that. And you could deliver better healthcare for your family. And I mean, God forbid if you save 300 bucks a month, that’s real money.

Chris Faddis:

It’s real money.

Chris DeSimone:

It’s real money. That’s

Chris Faddis:

Good stuff. Yeah, definitely visit us and I’ve got a great team, Chris, to help people make that decision. So give us a call if they need to as well.

Chris DeSimone:

All right, my friend. Good talking to you as always, and keep up the good work. Okay, we’ll

Chris Faddis:

Talk soon.

Chris DeSimone:

Bye later, amigo. Chris Faddis, Solidarity HealthShare, CEO. solidarityhealthshare.org.

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